- "YOU SPEAK ANOTHER LANGUAGE?!"
- "SAY SOMETHING IN IT!"
- -Forgets entire language-
"fight like a girl" is meant to imply weakness, but some girls don’t play nice.
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Promotion of violence.
No. Promotion of defense, owned identity, and power in a violent world.
ACTORS & SHIPPING
My favorite part of Cons is the real-time interaction with people who love and appreciate a show. That’s why I wanted a “selfie” with all 200+ of you :D
It’s also why I stuck my head into a fan panel to ask a question. But, based on some responses (two are below), I’m not entirely sure I clearly asked my question. Maybe my very presence interjecting there was distracting. What ever the reason, I’m clarifying here.
What I asked was: Do the shipped actors' opinions of said ship have any bearing on the fans' opinion of the ship.
Please understand this before you answer: No person’s opinion — whether they portray the character on the show or not — should curtail what another person imagines or creates (visual art, fanfic, music, etc.) Period. No caveats.
To the core of my being, I believe and uphold that every single one of us has the UNALIENABLE RIGHT to FREELY SPEAK and to pursue our happiness as we wish. I absolutely love hearing opinions and views that differ from mine; it makes me happy :D …tho I get pissed if I’m not allowed the same in return, ya feel me?? So, Ship away! I shall be doing the same. And to each their own ship! So you don’t have to remind me about the importance of respecting various ships. I agree.
That still leaves my question unanswered.
What I want(ed) to know from the fans assembled the other day, is this: If an actor’s vision for the character whom they bring to life and/or a writer’s vision of life in the Canon Universe is not consistent with a popular trend in a fandom, should the Canon-verse be altered to accommodate the fans’ desires? Should fans press for it to be so?
Naturally, I have opinions about this from a professional standpoint. And because I find it fascinating, I wanted to know what YOU FANS thought. [And I am not thinking of any one particular ship, so any haters, save your hate, cuz I was shipping looong before most people even reading this were born …GH *sigh* Luke and Laura…]
If someone wants to share their opinion, please do! Oh, but know this: I don’t promise not to assess the opinion’s merits or lack there of, but I DO promise I won’t judge, criticize, nor condemn. And while I believe we all have the Right of Free Speech, I also have the Right to have Silence …lol. For example, when someone’s opinion begins to be too vehement or if it violates my sense of justice or if it is intentionally cruel, I will insist that I be left in silence :)
This is all truly intriguing to me and a large part of why I adore this particular fandom.
Thank you, TeenWolfies, for Being.
…Eaddyherebedragonflies asked you:In response to your question about actors and ships: it doesn’t really matter. It’s like the death of the author: you put glorious things out and then they’re not yours anymore. At the same time, courtesy as fellow fans in no ship-shaming is even more important because your voices are louder.alwaysboth asked you:In response to your question about whether what actors ship has effect on what fans ship: not really? In this scenario, you essentially become fans. What you ship is generally irrelevant to what we ship. But you are higher profile than fans generally are, so it’s more important to us that you remain respectful toward things you don’t ship.
I feel like the feelings of the actors whose characters are being shipped, do on some level impact fans of said ship. It depends on the level of the feelings expressed. If it’s relatively mild, something along the lines of “I really don’t see their interactions that way, X and Y see each other more as siblings” or “X and Y do have very charged interactions. So it’s not too much of a leap to see them that way” then there’s not too much of an upheaval.
However, if the feelings expressed are relatively strong like “I think people who want X and Y in a relationship have a screw loose” or “X and Y should totally get together! I’m pushing for it” then I feel like reaction tends to be more divisive. In the later, you see more people flock to the ship and producing more work for it. In the former, I feel like it drives people who are not fully invested in the ship away, and shrinks that pool a bit, especially if they like the actors.
In regards to your other question, I don’t feel like canon should reflect popular fan opinion, because that can change so quickly. That said, I believe that creators and writers of the show should take notice when there is discussion among the fans about the problematic areas of the show they’re writing. If the fans are having a discussion about something that could be construed as racist, sexist, etc, then it bears at the very minimum re-examining and looking to see how it might have been seen that way.
before i knew which blogs were which,
some were fandom, some were art, some were music, and some were a bit of everything.
now everything is sebastian stan
having an old tiny worrisome asian lady as my mother is a small burden
bisexual people passing as straight when they’re in a straight relationship is not “passing privilege.” it’s erasure. it’s assimilation.
that’s like saying that femme lesbians have privilege over butch lesbians. invisibility might keep people safer on a micro-level which is fucked up, but it’s all based on people thinking they can tell who’s queer & who’s straight just by looking at them, which is infinitely problematic and painful.
don’t alienate queer people who are assumed to be straight. invisibility is a symptom of hetero-normativity, not a privilege.
okay but can you imagine like
a week after your truck gets stolen out of the goddamn mall parking lot, you get a knock on the door and there’s fucking Captain America standing there. Says he’s here about your goddamn truck. And for a moment you wonder if he started working for the police now that Shield took a dive, but you don’t say so, you just nod when he describes your truck to you, license plate number, make, model and color, all to a tee.
And then the weirdest thing happens (weirder than Captain America just showing up at your front door). Captain America starts looking bashful. And then he tells you your truck was lost ‘in the line of duty’. You must still look a little awestruck because he elaborates; he’s the one who took your truck.
Captain America fucking stole your goddamn truck out of the goddamn mall parking lot.
And he’s going to pay for a new one. And he’s very, very sorry.